tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-182754721491331897.post7712395678569846312..comments2022-01-01T13:02:20.028-08:00Comments on "Created to Be His Help Meet" discussion: Point 5HelpedMeethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02743632070070708780noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-182754721491331897.post-48020877509299809222014-04-16T20:24:03.061-07:002014-04-16T20:24:03.061-07:00@Hope: if you search commentaries on Matthew 13:33...@Hope: if you search commentaries on Matthew 13:33 you will find that the leaven here is actually a good thing. Barnes Notes says "The kingdom of heaven - The meaning here is the same as in the last parable; perhaps, however, intending to denote more properly the secret and hidden nature of piety in the soul. The other parable declared the "fact" that the gospel would greatly spread, and that piety in the heart would greatly increase. This states the "way" or "mode" in which it would be done. It is secret, silent, steady; pervading all the faculties of the soul and all the kingdoms of the world, as leaven, or yeast, though hidden in the flour, and though deposited only in one place, works silently until all the mass is brought under its influence." Matthew Henry's commentary is similar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-182754721491331897.post-29030870859804186312014-03-22T15:26:48.952-07:002014-03-22T15:26:48.952-07:00I've read this book 3 times before. And now w...I've read this book 3 times before. And now with reading your critic, I can not help but think that your straining gnats. With every book you have to be wise and use judgement. But you're picking on how she comes to conclusions, but then agree with the conclusion! No one should use it as a Bible, but it has some very great words and truths for wives. You are spoiling that just a bit. Heidi Minetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11467158756437095372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-182754721491331897.post-65575997919953348852012-03-23T14:02:22.807-07:002012-03-23T14:02:22.807-07:00I'm enjoying reading your critique. Lots of in...I'm enjoying reading your critique. Lots of interesting things to think about. One thing to point out, the yeast in that parable IS actually a bad thing. If you look at that parable in context, it is the third of 3 parables on one topic (false believers in the church and what to do about them) that begin with the longer parable of the wheat and tares, then 2 short, follow-up parables about the birds (which in the previous parable of the soil were a bad thing) nesting in the branches of the church (like false teachings/cults nesting in the branches of Christendom) and the false teaching getting mixed into the church (leaven in the Bible and in Jewish culture was used as a symbol of sin, hypocrisy, and false teaching). These parables are then bookended by Jesus' explanation of the parable of the wheat and tares, and then he moves on to another topic. I had always assumed, like you did, that the mustard tree with the birds and the bread growing were saying that the kingdom of God was growing, until I recently heard a sermon on them by Skip Heitzig. Here's the link if you're interested: http://www.calvaryabq.org/services_detail.asp?ServiceID=1018<br /><br />I did think, in light of that, that Debi did make a very good point.Hopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01473137095475770980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-182754721491331897.post-63695227345351636202010-07-03T14:27:14.929-07:002010-07-03T14:27:14.929-07:00I wish she only made the point that "we are a...I wish she only made the point that "we are are accountable as women". That would have been a good point.<br /><br />Instead, she uses the story to discredit women's spirituality, and, especially, women's spiritual leadership. Whatever one may think of women's spiritual leadership, it is absurd to use this story to discredit women when the male (Aaron) is equally guilty.<br /><br />Ignoring Aaron is okay if Debi only wants to say "women can make bad choices". But since she uses it to say "women are worse" (when it comes to spiritual leadership), omitting Aaron is misleading.<br /><br />Again, this book misuses scripture to defend a point which is not in that scripture.HelpedMeethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02743632070070708780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-182754721491331897.post-77506991976670186142010-06-26T08:29:52.843-07:002010-06-26T08:29:52.843-07:00"On page 109, Debi holds up Miriam as an exam..."On page 109, Debi holds up Miriam as an example of a woman whose false leadership proves women should not try to be spiritual. “Her desire to be on an equal footing with Moses has left her name in infamy, for our admonition (1 Cor. 10:6,10).” The two verses referenced have nothing to do with Miriam – they have to do with the Israelites being punished because they set their hearts on evil things and grumbled. The actual Scriptural story (in Numbers 12, which Debi never references) shows that both Aaron and Miriam criticized Moses and challenged his authority and were equally at fault. In fact, Aaron’s leadership (i.e. golden calf) carries a lot more infamy than Miriam’s. This story does nothing to advance Debi’s point that women most often have a false spirituality, any more than Aaron’s bad leadership in the Bible says anything about men’s ability to lead well. The leadership of both Aaron and Miriam is given legitimacy by God in Micah 6:4. (We are not saying women should lead; we are merely pointing out that Debi uses Scripture badly.)"<br /><br />Of course she singles out Miriam. She meerely makes the point that we are accountable as women (that is her readership) and Miriam did wrong. Did she not? Why would she comment on Aaron in a book about women taking responsibility for their own hearts? Of course he is guilty too but we are talking about Miriam and her choices.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com